Curse

Sneak · May 28, 2005, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Not really sure what to use as my secondary class, I was a elementalist and changed to monk for Rebirth/Judges insight.. Thinkin of changen my secondary again....

My job is to take out the monks/elementalists and keep them down.
This is also my PvE Char, so that makes my items even nicer

My Current Bow:
Does Cold damage 15-28 Ascalon Bow
+15% damage When health is above 50%
+27 Hp

Because my skills look pretty mana intensive I was thinking of changing the Icy Bow string to a mana stealing bow string

Points:
16 Marksmanship
13 Expertise
4 Wilderness Survival

Current Build

Oath Shot
Hunter's Shot
Concussion Shot
Pin Down
Lighting Reflexes
Read The Wind
Frozen Soil
Rebirth

Possibile Changes
Rebirth for Whirling Defenses\Serpant's Quickness\Penetrating Attack\Throw Dirt
Read The Wind for Judge's Insight

any other changes are welcome... tell me what you think... thanks ^_-

Thinking about ditching my secondary monk for a ME

SideSlideBoy · May 29, 2005, 12:42 AM // 00:42

I would stay monk for the res and have the rest as Ranger abilities so you could be a more focused ranger. It looks like you are more towards an interupting ranger build which is alright, but doing DoT is more fun and effective in my opinion.

Oath Shot - Replace with Poison Arrow
Hunter's Shot - Keep
Concussion Shot - Replace with Penetrating Shot
Pin Down - Keep
Lighting Reflexes - Keep
Read The Wind - Replace with Throw Dirt
Frozen Soil - Whirling Defense/Troll Unguent
Rebirth - Keep

If you're in a nice decent team with at least one monk you can take down alot of people easily. You can handle 2 warriors at a time with ease if you know what you are doing. You are also a caster's/healer's nightmare even without interupting skills. Your main damage dealers are of course Poison Arrow, Pin Down + Hunter's Shot and Penetrating Shot to do some nice damage while they have heavy DoT on them. Whenever you have people focused on you just turn on Whirling Defense or Lightning Reflexes and take them out.

Sneak · May 29, 2005, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by SideSlideBoy

I would stay monk for the res and have the rest as Ranger abilities so you could be a more focused ranger. It looks like you are more towards an interupting ranger build which is alright, but doing DoT is more fun and effective in my opinion.

Oath Shot - Replace with Poison Arrow
Hunter's Shot - Keep
Concussion Shot - Replace with Penetrating Shot
Pin Down - Keep
Lighting Reflexes - Keep
Read The Wind - Replace with Throw Dirt
Frozen Soil - Whirling Defense/Troll Unguent
Rebirth - Keep

If you're in a nice decent team with at least one monk you can take down alot of people easily. You can handle 2 warriors at a time with ease if you know what you are doing. You are also a caster's/healer's nightmare even without interupting skills. Your main damage dealers are of course Poison Arrow, Pin Down + Hunter's Shot and Penetrating Shot to do some nice damage while they have heavy DoT on them. Whenever you have people focused on you just turn on Whirling Defense or Lightning Reflexes and take them out.

This reply isnt totaly about your post, i kind of explained everything to let people understand what im trying to accomplish.

Well ive won HOH a few times now, however there is always room for improvement..

i used to barragebot in PvP however players spread out too much and it was just judge's insight + Penetrating Attack

Concussion Shot dazes an opponet for around 21 seconds because my marksmanship is 16 due to my mask + my Superior rune of marksmanship... Dazed is a very rare condition I didnt know about it untill this skill...
a dazed character has his casting times tripled and spells are interrupted by every blow. My goal is to put that on a monk, Oath shot to regenerate my Concussion and lock down 1 monk as my team wrecks that one.

Im also using Oath shot to Regenerate my stances, they have a 60 second cool down time and oath shot brings them all back.

I picked hunter's shot over penetrating attack, only because of the mana... i felt with casting oath shot to get alot of my skills back, that hunter's shot was a better pick because i would be sitting on the low end of my mana for a few seconds, and i feel a few hunter shots are better than a single penetrating attack... I havent number crunched so I could be wrong.

I think frozen soil is a MUST HAVE for any experianced party on ventrillo. The only thing that would even have me think to remove this spell is if my teamate had it.

Read the wind can go, it was kind of my replacement for judge's insight... mainly because judges was picked over this because its a enchantment not a preperation, and barrage took off all preperations.. I thought this may be better with level 16 marksmanship

Throw dirt is a inexpensive skill that is very effective, if your in combat or if your monk\teamate is being hit by a warrior... sneak over throw dirt go back in combat. Wasnt sure if im needing this skill enough, and I could be getting my stances back enough with oath shot... dunno i think whirling defenses > throw dirt... it works vs all my foes and lasts longer

Ive tried Troll Unguent... However all PvP Groups we ever go into, have 3 Monks or E/Mo... i hate how that looks... I hate emo people... anyways with my build of minimal wilderness survival, all the dodgen, and me being not a primary target AT ALL.... who attacks rangers? jeeseeee.... Havent felt it nessicary, used to use it, and dropped it...

Comment! Explain your ideas

SideSlideBoy · May 29, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41

I know its not about my post =). I'm just posting a build thats pretty effective for me in PvP and see if you wanted to try it O.o. Like I said, your build is alright, didn't mean to make it sound the opposite. I know you are mainly focused on casters and your build is a pretty good build against them and would make most casters run away in panic but you won't see most Warriors running when they go against you, but the opposite. Anyways, I would change to Mesmer secondary since you would be a lot more effective at killing off monks and casters, but you will probably find mana a problem if you don't have Marksmen's Wager.

And yes, Concussion Shot owns the casters!

Sneak · May 29, 2005, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by SideSlideBoy

I know its not about my post =). I'm just posting a build thats pretty effective for me in PvP and see if you wanted to try it O.o. Like I said, your build is alright, didn't mean to make it sound the opposite. I know you are mainly focused on casters and your build is a pretty good build against them and would make most casters run away in panic but you won't see most Warriors running when they go against you, but the opposite. Anyways, I would change to Mesmer secondary since you would be a lot more effective at killing off monks and casters, but you will probably find mana a problem if you don't have Marksmen's Wager.

And yes, Concussion Shot owns the casters!

in PvP the faster you take down the casters is the faster you win, I kind of started with your build and moved to barragebot... then moved to this.

Your goal is a bit differant than mine, both are usefull and which is needed depends on the team

Im trying to help my team assassinate the monks and elementalists. If i switch to mesmer I would use 1-2 skills and only have +3 or so into a attribute, im not finding that very usefull. If im a monk I can heal res my teamtes when monks are busy, be a more popular target allowing my evades to tank much better, be a little clutch when needed.

Post on better ways i can accomplish my goal

Sneak · May 29, 2005, 02:15 AM // 02:15

I think im gonna take out Read the Wind for either Whirling Defenses\Penetrating Attack or throw dirt.. probably whirling defenses what you think?

also should i change for a mana stealing bow string?